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Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:36 pm
by Haxus
Greydog wrote:Can the turret station be inside a manned turret? (bubble turret)


That should work. The turret base is going to turn in response to the turret gunner turning. The turret gunner has a screen but it isn't set up to turn with the gunner. It will not display info that must be in your view at all times. That would be handled with on-screen elements, like the current indicators when using a turret.

I actually don't know yet what will be on that screen. Nothing is currently planned. It's just a place-holder in case I decide to do something with it.

If you wanted to orient the gunner upside down, you could make a room void just for him. The room up direction determines which way they sit in chairs.

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:39 pm
by Haxus
Win32 client update posted.
OS X for OpenGL 3.3 client update posted.
Ubuntu 16 client update posted.
Mint 18 client update building...
Fedora 24 client update pending...
Debian 8 client update pending...

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:38 pm
by Greydog
Haxus wrote:That should work. The turret base is going to turn in response to the turret gunner turning. The turret gunner has a screen but it isn't set up to turn with the gunner. It will not display info that must be in your view at all times. That would be handled with on-screen elements, like the current indicators when using a turret.

I actually don't know yet what will be on that screen. Nothing is currently planned. It's just a place-holder in case I decide to do something with it.

If you wanted to orient the gunner upside down, you could make a room void just for him. The room up direction determines which way they sit in chairs.


Interesting.

If I were to make the inside of a turret base a room, and place the seat and console in it, would the whole thing rotate according to the firing arc you set for the turret?

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:53 pm
by the Lana
Docking gangways? Can a room change shape, such as extending into someone's open docking bay?

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:55 pm
by Haxus
Only the turret base will rotate, which is like a piece of hull.

You would need a room inside it for the gunner, but it would not rotate or move. The turret would rotate around the room. This wouldn't be a problem unless the geometry collides and looks weird. The gunner wouldn't really notice because their point of view will be moved to the gun/turret when they are "in" the station, as if it had a camera instead of a scope.

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:57 pm
by Haxus
Mint 18 client update posted.
Fedora 24 client update building...
Debian 8 client update building...

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:11 pm
by Haxus
the Lana wrote:Can a room change shape, such as extending into someone's open docking bay?


I might add a new kind of hull part that can be animated like a landing gear. A different room void could be associated with each state of the hull part, so the collision model changes shape with it.

The bat shaped ship in Star Wars The Force Awakens got me thinking about it. The wings could be done now as part of the landing gear, but then their deployment is always synchronous with the gear. That might not always be wanted.

Just need to think about how to control these things, likely the helm. That could get complicated if you want to control them all separately.

Maybe a design can have one.

That would work for most ships, and X-wing fighters.

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:39 pm
by Haxus
Fedora 24 client update posted.
Debian 8 client update posted.

Actually posting them now. Give them a few minutes.

Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:06 pm
by Greydog
I'm imagining something like this.

"fist" part of wing doubling as thruster and landing gear. Rear legs as well ;)

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Re: Update 2017-01-09 Designer Paths, Modules

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:32 am
by Ikkir Isth
Haxus wrote:
the Lana wrote:Can a room change shape, such as extending into someone's open docking bay?


I might add a new kind of hull part that can be animated like a landing gear. A different room void could be associated with each state of the hull part, so the collision model changes shape with it.

The bat shaped ship in Star Wars The Force Awakens got me thinking about it. The wings could be done now as part of the landing gear, but then their deployment is always synchronous with the gear. That might not always be wanted.

Just need to think about how to control these things, likely the helm. That could get complicated if you want to control them all separately.

Maybe a design can have one.

That would work for most ships, and X-wing fighters.


Extendable ladders/stairs/ramps would definitely be great for a lot of things. As far as docking goes, would love to see some pre-set clamps/variable size clamps that could be attached to spacecraft to do port-based docking under the same animateable parts rules.

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